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fordtrucks-digest Wednesday, August 20 1997 Volume 01 : Number 003




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Date: 19 Aug 97 06:36:14 EDT
From: DC Beatty
Subject: battery question

Does anyone out there have any experience with dry cell batteries? I hear they
are real tough and real expensive. It is battery replacement time in my world
and I was wondering if I should invest in one.

Thanks,

DC Beatty
1967 F-100 352
1974 Maverick 302

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Date: 19 Aug 97 06:36:13 EDT
From: DC Beatty
Subject: RE: Subject: Wow! A new list

Just for info purposes:

My '74 Maverick has stock electronic ignition. The sticker on the valve cover
> calls for a gap of between .045" and .056". I always ran the Autolite plugs in
it.

Also, when I bought my '67 p/u it had the Bosch Platinum plugs in it. I wouldn't
have done this on my own 'cause I resent having Hitler-mobile stuff on my truck.
But, nevertheless, there they are. I hear that they are supposed to last a long
time, so if I notice anything spectacular or feel the earth move or something
I'll let the group know.

Hope this helps someone.

DC Beatty
1967 F-100 352
1974 Maverick 302

From: Steve Delanty

>Well sure! I'd recommend splitfires, gapped at .666" and dipped in
> slick 50 before installation.. (-;
>
> Well, actually I'd use the same brand and heat range You've been using.
> The duraspark setup shouldn't require anything different, except You can
> probably get away with opening up the gap another .005" or so..

Your all right Bro!

As you suggested I went with the solidsmothers as opposed to splitfires!
;] OK, that pigs in the pit I just couldn't help it.
I went with the Autolite 45's my stock gap was .032-.036 I gaped them
.041. Runs like a champ!
Thanks!

Jim Strigas

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 07:56:09 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Subject: Wow! A new list

> From: sdelanty sonic.net
> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:46:42 -0700
> Subject: Re: Subject: Wow! A new list

> >I'm looking for suggestions on sparkplugs. I installed an ignition
> >system from a '77 Mercury a few months back and used the Autolites

Take a look at the torque master web site. It's pretty interesting.
I don't believe the numbers for a minute but the design, similar to
the gold paladium would be less likely to foul which is a plus in my
book. I've been thinking about the concept for some time and may get
around to trying some soon myself.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.torquemaster.com/

- -- Gary Peters --

(Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
(Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
(Daughter's)92 Tempo
(Daughter's)92 T-Bird
(Wife's)94 T-Bird
(Son's)90 F-150, I6
(Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
All mine to work on, maintain etc..

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 10:14:42 -0400
From: "Edward Dunmyre"
Subject: Harmonic balancer

Help!
Will someone PLEASE tell me if a harmonic balancer can be repaired or
rebuilt? Mine is in three peices. This balancer is off a 351M motor,
I have another from a 400 motor, can I use this? Will any others work?
Thank you for your time. Eddie
- --


Hang on tight, life's a bumpy ride!

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 10:31:50 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: Harmonic balancer

> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 10:14:42 -0400
> From: "Edward Dunmyre"
> Subject: Harmonic balancer

> Will someone PLEASE tell me if a harmonic balancer can be repaired

I bet you pulled it with a flange type puller didn't you? Shame on
you :-) I don't think I ever heard of a method for repairing them
since the operation depends on a careful alignment of the two parts
> and the resiliance of the rubber between them. The junk yards are
full of them but I think I would get the 351M version just in case
there may be a differnece. The cranks are both externally balanced
but the throws are different which may affect the twist.

I would call a friendly Ford dealer to have them check the part
> numbers for both to be sure. Sometimes they have different numbers
for current production items but after production they service both
with the same part which is a clue that there is no significant
difference.

- -- Gary Peters --

(Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
(Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
(Daughter's)92 Tempo
(Daughter's)92 T-Bird
(Wife's)94 T-Bird
(Son's)90 F-150, I6
(Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
All mine to work on, maintain etc..

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 17:34:26 +0300
From: "Tero Saarelainen"
Subject: Re: Wiring

Hi Bill!

I think there should be female/female connectors and/or blocks between
those male ends. In my '52 Mercury are those, One or two under dash and one
near left headlight, which somehow divide wires to both headlights. If I
remember right in those blocks are about 8 female/female connectors. I
don't know where to find those blocks, but single connectors are for sale
in Obsolete Ford Parts and in Sacramento Vintage Ford Parts.

I hope this helps,

Tero Saarelainen
Finland
teros dlc.fi
'61 & '62 F-100 Unibody
'52 Mercury
'36 Ford Pickup

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> From: billjhs
> To: fordtrucks ListService.net
> Subject: Wiring
> Date: 19. August 1997 5:13
>
> Hello to all,
>
> I have been re-wiring my 51 f-1 with new harnesses, I just have some
> questions maybe someone can answer. I seem to have a lot of male ends
> and no female ends on my wires.
> >From the main body harness to the under dash harness both ends are male,
> am I missing something ?? From the under dash harness to the headlight
> crossover both ends are male and the crossover doesn;t seem to have
> enough wires to go to both headlights. Again I guess I am missing
> something. Any help would be appreciated cause the vendor doesn't seem
> to know.
>
> Thanks
> Bill
>
> 1951 Ford F-1
>
>

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 12:06:14 -0400
From: JBair webtv.net (Justin Bair)
Subject: Re: battery question

A dry cell battery is good for any usage of long term or high current
battery needs. such as in large car stereo systems or in campers or
mobile homes. I feel for the price and usage a battery they have come
out with in the market is called a gel cell. I work at Western Auto's
Parts America and AC delco has a line of them just for trucks. They are
better then traditional batteries and cost a little more but are not as
outragous as dry cells. for all practical purposes this type of battery
should do you well.
Justin Bair

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:44:29 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: CDI Ignition Module?

>Hi All,
>
>When I bought my 74 Truck a few weeks ago, the was a small box mounted on the
>fender well. On the box it say "CDI CONNECTIONS". Some of the wires go to the
>coil, I haven't traced the rest of the wires down yet. Can someone tell me
what
>this box is, what it does or anything else they might know about this box?

Hmm, well I've seen several replies to this that say it's probably
stock Ford electronic ign. (duraspark) in '74..

But what's with the "CDI CONNECTIONS"???
The duraspark setup sure ain't no Capacitive Discharge unit, it's just a
simple transistor switch.

I'd have to say that the "CDI" label tags it as being an aftermarket unit
and not stock Ford.
I can't think of any auto manufacturer that used a real CDI unit
back in '74.! A few bikes (Kawasaki) were using magneto driven CDI's
back then, but transistor-switcher type CDI's for auto use were
rare/expensive/not terribly reliable or effective back then.
Many were offered as assemble Yourself kits thru Heathkit and others.
(I built one in '75) By the 80's transistor technology was good enough
that CDI's became common items.

Technology marches on...




Steve Delanty
1971 F100 FE390

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 13:08:36 -0400
From: BARRY PRICE
Subject: 1965 F-100 Engine Size

I am currently restoring and 1965 F100 with an In line six. The problem
is I do not know the cubic inches of the engine or the specifics of the
transmission (it's a 3 speed on the column). I know the engine is original
and I have the ID codes from the driver side door they are:

WB COLOR MODEL BODY TRANS AXLE
115 M F100 281 A 08

WARRANTY Number is: F10BL709071

If anyone can please post the translation of these numbers it will be
greatly appreciated.

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 13:12:19 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: CDI Ignition Module?

> From: sdelanty sonic.net
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:44:29 -0700
> Subject: Re: CDI Ignition Module?

> But what's with the "CDI CONNECTIONS"???
> The duraspark setup sure ain't no Capacitive Discharge unit, it's
> just a simple transistor switch.

That's what got me too. The predecessor to the dura spark was a
plain aluminum box with nothing on it that I can remember and
certainly doesn't seem like it would have that on it?? I threw in
the other stuff cuz I like to talk and just in case there might be
something I don't know :-) Figured someone would paste me if I was
all wet :-)

- -- Gary Peters --

(Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
(Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
(Daughter's)92 Tempo
(Daughter's)92 T-Bird
(Wife's)94 T-Bird
(Son's)90 F-150, I6
(Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
All mine to work on, maintain etc..

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 97 13:34:43 EDT
From: AM14 chrysler.com
Subject: mANUAL 4 SPEED od

Sometime in the late '60's or early '70's Fomoco offered their heavy duty
top loader 4 speed transmission in the Overdrive 4th gear configuration.
Was this transmission ever offered in Fomoco trucks?? In particular 4X4
with a short tailshaft and Bolt on type output yoke???

If so I need one.

WORKING TO BE THE BEST
Azie Magnusson
PROFS ID (AM14):E-Mail AM14 Chrysler.com
Tie Line (835-2578):Outside (205)464-2578

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 14:28:18 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: mANUAL 4 SPEED od

> From: AM14 chrysler.com
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 97 13:34:43 EDT
> Subject: mANUAL 4 SPEED od

> Sometime in the late '60's or early '70's Fomoco offered their heavy
> duty top loader 4 speed transmission in the Overdrive 4th gear
> configuration. Was this transmission ever offered in Fomoco trucks??

The only one I know of offered in trucks wouldn't be considered
heavy duty by most truckers. There is one used in late model
broncos with 302 engines and I6's and I remember a friend who had one
in an early 80's van with an I6 but I've never heard of one being
offered with a larger engine until they came out with the ZF 5 speed.
I'll take a look in my 78 service manuals and see what they list
tomorrow.

- -- Gary Peters --

(Mine)78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6
(Mine)78 Bronco, 4wd, 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
(Daughter's)92 Tempo
(Daughter's)92 T-Bird
(Wife's)94 T-Bird
(Son's)90 F-150, I6
(Son's)76 Blue Bird School bus
All mine to work on, maintain etc..

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 23:20:00 +0300
From: "Tero Saarelainen"
Subject: Re: 1965 F-100 Engine Size

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> From: BARRY PRICE
> To: fordtrucks ListService.net
> Subject: 1965 F-100 Engine Size
> Date: 19. August 1997 20:08
>
> I am currently restoring and 1965 F100 with an In line six. The problem
> is I do not know the cubic inches of the engine or the specifics of the
> transmission (it's a 3 speed on the column). I know the engine is
original
> and I have the ID codes from the driver side door they are:
>
> WB COLOR MODEL BODY TRANS AXLE
> 115 M F100 281 A 08

Wheel base is 115", Color M is White, Model F-100 gross vehicle weight is
5,000 lbs., Body 281: 2 is blue vinyl interior and 81 is conventional cab,
Trans A is 3-speed Ford standard duty, Axle 08 is 3.50 ratio.

>
> WARRANTY Number is: F10BL709071
F10 is F-100 (4x2), B is 300 cid 6 cyl., L is Michigan Truck assembly plant
and 709071 locates to July 1965
>
> If anyone can please post the translation of these numbers it will be
> greatly appreciated.

I hope this helps You

Tero Saarelainen
Finland
teros dlc.fi
'61 & '62 F-100 Unibody
'52 Mercury
'36 Ford Pickup

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 13:45:16 -0700
From: "Jim Strigas"
Subject: Re: CDI Ignition Module?

Steve wrote;

> Hmm, well I've seen several replies to this that say it's probably
> stock Ford electronic ign. (duraspark) in '74..
>
> But what's with the "CDI CONNECTIONS"???
> The duraspark setup sure ain't no Capacitive Discharge unit, it's just a
> simple transistor switch.

I took CDI CONNECTIONS for See Da Instructions for Connections. Everyone
was out partying in those days, who had time to build a CDI?

> Many were offered as assemble Yourself kits thru Heathkit and others.
> (I built one in '75)

Oops, Sorry Steve! I would have let you hang around me, if I knew you
then! :)

I can make up for that last crack, check out what I found. There's not much
there, no kits, but it does bring back memories! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.heathkit.com/

Jim Strigas

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 15:34:38 -0400
From: Kevin Kemmerer
Subject: RE: Harmonic balancer

i recall reading in a magazine a company that repairs them. it was either
in a mopar or ford mag, but i cannot recall when or where. i looked in my
stack quick, but didn't see it. keep searching, maybe call some
restoration clubs and companies as they may know of the place.

sleddog

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From: Edward Dunmyre[SMTP:edddee nb.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 1997 10:14 AM
To: fordtrucks ListService.net
Subject: Harmonic balancer

Help!
Will someone PLEASE tell me if a harmonic balancer can be repaired or
rebuilt? Mine is in three peices. This balancer is off a 351M motor,
I have another from a 400 motor, can I use this? Will any others work?
Thank you for your time. Eddie
- --


Hang on tight, life's a bumpy ride!

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 15:27:09 -0600
From: Randall Colgan
Subject: Free catalog

Just a note of interest. The following catalog is free for people living in
the U.S. only. Although I don't mind paying!

>Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 21:55:24 -0400
>From: Ken Payne
>Subject: Free Old/Antique parts catalog (Announcment 2 of 3)
>
>This message is going to get posted once a day for 3 days. This is
>day 2 of 3. Initial plans were for one posting but with all the
>distractions and down time on the list it will give everyone a chance
>to see it. I promised everyone an announcement and many people have
>sent me anxious emails concerning this over the last month so I feel
>you guys/gals deserve a chance to get the catalog info....
>
>Dear Ford Truck Enthusiasts:
>
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>
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================
Randall Colgan
Civil Engineering
University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta
'52 Ford F-1 Truck
================

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 17:47:54 -0400
From: Joe DeLaurentis
Subject: 76 F100 Question

Would A 76 F100 have coils up front or leaf springs on all 4 corners??
Looking at a 76 with a 460, 44" tires auto etc...Just wondering about
the suspension?
Joe

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 16:51:12 -0500
From: "George Shepherd"
Subject: Re: Harmonic balancer

Have the parts yards check Hollanders, but My Christy book says they are
the same. There is a company which rebuilds them--check Hemmings Motor....

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