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fordtrucks80up-digest Friday, October 24 1997 Volume 01 : Number 189



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In this issue:

Re: Crazy ideas [bLAckguArd ]
Re: FI cleaning [David Hertzberg ]
RE:Re: Sports car interior [BigDogF250 aol.com]
Re: FI cleaning [Thom Cheney ]
Re: Trucks owners in Baltimore? [Chris Kelly ]
Re: Trucks owners in Baltimore? [john.doe erols.com]
Anyone Have A 1997 F-150/Expedition Service Manual Handy? [Joe Maleski
RE: FI Cleaning [tgstoner umich.edu]
Re: Switching Between Dual Tanks [Joe Maleski ]
bad rear [Dan Simoes ]
Performance Tires [JOUZA1 aol.com]
what new lightnig?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [JOUZA1 aol.com]
Re: bad rear [jsruss postoffice.worldnet.att.net]
Re: Bronco II Suspension [Bill Funk ]
Re: what new lightnig?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [jsruss postoffice.]
black waxy/greasy/paint frame coating. What is it? [Bob Scola
Re: block heater [ILuvTruks aol.com]
Re: black waxy/greasy/paint frame coating. What is it? [jsruss postoffic]
Re: Tailgates and Mileage [Midwest96 aol.com]
Re: Winter Tires ? -> tire sizing info[A] [Midwest96 aol.com]
Sun-Visors and Bug-guards [ILuvTruks aol.com]
Barnyard noises in my Ranger ["Bryce T. Beyler" ]
Re: Bronco II suspension [jwshouse juno.com (James W Shouse)]
F-250 wiring harness [Glen Sholley ]
Re: Sun-Visors and Bug-guards [Steven McCullough
Re: Barnyard noises in my Ranger [James Federline
Re: Sun-Visors and Bug-guards [James Federline

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:53:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: bLAckguArd
Subject: Re: Crazy ideas

Actually, in a recent post regarding spray-on bedliners, I made
the comment that they also make an excellent sound damper for all the
audiophiles out there. :) Coincidence, or cosmic link.
Twilight Zone theme song here>
I actually got the whole scheme from MiniTruckin' Magazine. One
clever lad stripped down his truck to bare sheetmetal, and had the
bed, underside, frame and interior of the cab (everything that would
be covered in fabric)and according to the guy who wrote the article,
it made quite a respectable sound damping system. :)
I imagine the same would hold true for the little aerosol cans of
the stuff. I plan on trying it in the spring, so if you wanna wait
around for a while, I'll let you know how it turned out. :)
-Mitch



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- ---Steven McCullough wrote:
>
> I was thinking the other day about adding some more sound deadening
> material to
> my truck and my wifes car since we both do a good bit of highway
driving and
> the noise gets to us after a while (especially now that the speed
limit is
> 70 MPH)
>
> I've discovered that that dynomat stuff is outrageous in price, but
all this
> talk about spray-in beadliners got me to thinking that that stuff
may make
> great sound proffing material for the floor pan of a vehicle.
>
> I saw some for sale at Wal-Mart of all places the other day...
>
> Does anyone have any experiences with the do it yourself stuff, does
it stink?
> (ie will it take a month before the stuff fully cures and quits
smelling like
> paint?) How far does a can go? Does it drift bad (do I need to cover
> every car
> within 30 feet?)
>
> Just a crazy thought?
>
> Steve
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 97 11:49:53 PDT
From: David Hertzberg
Subject: Re: FI cleaning

Stanadyne makes specific diesel fuel additives for its injection pumps and
injectors (around here in Maryland at about 4 dollars a bottle; one bottle will
treat 150 gallons of fuel, I believe), and I would recommend using these (over an
extended period of time and, ultimatley permanently) before trying the chevron
product, although having said that I believe the latter is ok to use in a diesel.
You do not have to but Stanadyne; several companies make diesel fuel additive, and
its cheaper to buy it in one gallon or half gallon containers. david


> The Chevron stuff worked very well it seems. I had an '88 Aerostar
>rebuilt at 145000 miles and the guy who did it was amazed at the injectors.
>They were clean and not "pitted" as he called it. I was unaware and am
>still not sure that they can get pitted, but I do know the engine never had
>a problem. I rebuilt it because I was giving it to a friend and felt it
>should be in tip top shape before I did so. Can you use the same stuff in a
>Powerstroke or does a diesel have its' own needs ?
>
> Hummer
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Hertzberg
>To: fordtrucks80up listservice.net
>Date: Friday, October 24, 1997 6:18 AM
>Subject: RE: FI cleaning
>
>
>>why not try the chevron fi cleaning product (is it called techguard??) for
>7
>>dollars first, then see what happens??
>>
>>
>>>What are the opinions on fuel injection cleaning. Should I do the $60
>>>cleaning at the dealer, or dump a can of treatment in the gas tank?
>>
>>
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David and Leila Hertzberg
Greystoke Farm
Gaithersburg, Maryland
301-482-0016
ACdhertz us-state.osis.gov


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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 13:05:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: BigDogF250 aol.com
Subject: RE:Re: Sports car interior

LOL i thought you were, and i know what you mean;-) I really was only
talking about a cool looking dash and center consol. And alot of buttons,
just to make it look like its complicated. LOL
Matt

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 10:55:56 -0500
From: Thom Cheney
Subject: Re: FI cleaning

David Hertzberg wrote:
>
> Stanadyne makes specific diesel fuel additives for its injection pumps and
> injectors (around here in Maryland at about 4 dollars a bottle; one bottle will
> treat 150 gallons of fuel, I believe), and I would recommend using these (over an
> extended period of time and, ultimatley permanently) before trying the chevron
> product, although having said that I believe the latter is ok to use in a diesel.
> You do not have to but Stanadyne; several companies make diesel fuel additive, and
> its cheaper to buy it in one gallon or half gallon containers. david


actually, my original post didn't specify, but the vehicle in question
is gas powered.

- --
Thom Cheney
Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:13:42 -0400
From: Chris Kelly
Subject: Re: Trucks owners in Baltimore?

Michael Ruth wrote:
>
> HI GANG!
> Just wondering if there are any list members in Baltimore,Maryland. It
> seems as if I am the only one around!!! E-mail me if your in the area.
>
> Mike
> 95 F-250 HD 4X4 pwrstrk diesel
> > 94 E.B. Explorer 4X4
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Hey I am from Bel Air, Harford County! See your not the only one!

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:13:06 -0400
From: john.doe erols.com
Subject: Re: Trucks owners in Baltimore?

>Michael Ruth wrote:
>>
>> HI GANG!
>> Just wondering if there are any list members in Baltimore,Maryland. It
>> seems as if I am the only one around!!! E-mail me if your in the area.
>>


I live in Montgomery County.

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:21:24 -0700
From: Joe Maleski
Subject: Anyone Have A 1997 F-150/Expedition Service Manual Handy?

Hi Folks,

I'm doing a little research and I'm wondering if anyone can look up the
fuel pressure that the in-tank fuel pump is rated at for the new generation
of Triton engines, the 4.6 V8 and the 5.4 V8 specifically. Maybe the V10
if anyone with a '97 full size van is reading this...

Thanks!

Joe

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Joe Maleski
Santa Clara, CA
1994 F-250HD SuperCab 4X4, 460/5-spd

mailto:jmaleski auspex.com

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:26:40 -0400
From: tgstoner umich.edu
Subject: RE: FI Cleaning

What with 2 year leases and all, I've yet to have any of my Rangers long
enough to really feel that I needed to clean the fuel injectors. Before my
'92 Ranger however, I drove an '87 Buick LeSabre and when it would
periodically start running like it might have had dirty fuel injectors, I
would switch to premium grade gasoline for four or five tanks full. At
that time, Mobil was advertising that their premium grade had higher
detergents and would clean dirty injectors, so I would generally buy my
fuel from them while I was using the higher octane stuff. And generally,
the car would start running better again on about the second or third tank
and the roughness would not return for quite some time (six to 12 months)
after I switched back to unleaded regular. With premium costing about
twenty cents per gallon more and fill-ups averaging about 15 gallons, this
method for injector cleaning would cost me $15.00 or less even if I
extended the "treatment" for a full five tanks. Like I said however, I've
not needed to do this for nearly six years now, and I haven't paid
attention to what is being claimed for gasoline formulation and additives
these days. So, as they say, your mileage may vary.

Tom Stoner
Ann Arbor, MI
1996 Ranger XLT Supercab
1996 Taurus LX
tgstoner umich.edu

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:14:37 -0700
From: Joe Maleski
Subject: Re: Switching Between Dual Tanks

No, I thought we were talking about how hot fuel gets, and I just wanted to
illustrate how in this one case, it can get pretty darn hot!

Joe

>> It should be noted for the record that the fuel system on my truck is not
>> entirely OEM.
>
>Did I miss that little gem in your first post? I thought we were
>talking about a stock fuel tank set-up.

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Joe Maleski
Santa Clara, CA
1994 F-250HD SuperCab 4X4, 460/5-spd

mailto:jmaleski auspex.com

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 15:52:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dan Simoes
Subject: bad rear

My 91 Ranger has been diagnosed with a bad rear end.
I imagine that means the differential.
We're going to look for a used one to put in, but
I was wondering if there are any recommended
upgrades, whether Ford or aftermarket, while
this thing is out - ie a limited slip or "positrac"
style diff. Thanks for any feedback.
- --
Dan Simoes dans ans.net
ANS Communications http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://coimbra.ans.net/dans.html
100 Manhattanville Road (914) 701-5378 (voice)
Purchase, NY 10577 (914) 701-5310 (fax)

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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:06:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: JOUZA1 aol.com
Subject: Performance Tires
>
In a message dated 97-10-24 15:57:45 EDT, MAILER-DAEMON aol.com writes:

I need to pucase two rear tires for my ranger. I am looking for performace
orientaded tires. I know Comp T/A's are great but i think they are out of
my
price range. Does anyone know how much they are? Are the stock Firestones
good enogh? What about Goodyear Eagles? How much are they and would they
be better over the stock set? Or is there another brand wich I am not aware
of
wich are a good tire and good price. The answere to my questions are much
appdreciated. Thanks for your time.


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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 15:57:00 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: Performance Tires
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I need to pucase two rear tires for my ranger. I am looking for performace
orientaded tires. I know Comp T/A's are great but i think they are out of my
price range. Does anyone know how much they are? Are the stock Firestones
good enogh? What about Goodyear Eagles? How much are they and would they be
better over the stock set? Or is there another brand wich I am not aware of
wich are a good tire and good price. The answere to my questions are much
appdreciated. Thanks for your time.

Sincerly JOSH J.

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