61-79-list-digest Tuesday, May 5 1998 Volume 02 : Number 247



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Heavy Duty Hubs
FTE 61-79 - RE: Dist. roll pins
FTE 61-79 - FOR SALE: 1979 Ford F-350 4x4 Pulling Truck
FTE 61-79 - AUCTION
Re: FTE 61-79 - AUCTION
FTE 61-79 - toploader
Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear Lockers
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Weatherstripping
RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: gauges
> Re: FTE 61-79 - Heavy Duty Hubs
Re: FTE 61-79 - Heavy Duty Hubs
Re: FTE 61-79 - AUCTION
Re: FTE 61-79 - toploader
Re: FTE 61-79 - shifter bushings
FTE 61-79 - Deal of the year
Re: FTE 61-79 - Heavy Duty Hubs
Re: FTE 61-79 - Big Block C-4?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Big Block C-4?
Re: FTE 61-79 - toploader
Re: FTE 61-79 - Wife
RE: FTE 61-79 - Big Block C-4?
Re: FTE 61-79 - External Hubs
FTE 61-79 - Re: Wider Frame
Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear Lockers
Re: FTE 61-79 - who's going to Pigeon forge ?
FTE 61-79 - Pigeon Forge

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Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 15:40:20 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Heavy Duty Hubs

Ok you all now you got me thinking,

Is the HD hubs on the dana 44 really stronger than the regular hubs?
Local junk yard wants $300 for a 77 3/4 ton HD Dana 44. I does have
aftermarket locking hubs, not the Factoy ones. The brake calipers are
the same but the rotor looks like it has more of an offset but
everything else looks the same. They also want 3 bills for the rear end
but I can do better than that at the U-Pull-It. What I am asking is
Where's the Dana 44 beef?

If I could only find a Dana 60 Front at that price :(
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Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net
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63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.


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Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 18:08:00 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Dist. roll pins

my cousin has had the same problem on his FE at least twice that i know of. this was with a mallory destributer i think.

sleddog

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From: Art & Kat Lutz[SMTP:pig95 ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 1998 4:41 PM
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Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dist. roll pins

I was just wondering if anyone else has had problems with the roll pin
that holds the distributer gear on. I have had two break on two different
durasparks, the last time the truck still ran and took some time for me to
figure out. Is this a common problem?

Art Lutz
78 F-250 XLT 4X4, 400 c.i.d.


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Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 18:39:19 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FOR SALE: 1979 Ford F-350 4x4 Pulling Truck

i am posting this for a friend. this truck is in excellent shape and
located in the eastern PA area. i can say it is a very smooth puller and
was always one of the crowds favorite trucks at every pull. this was the
truck to beat!
email address at bottom i believe he can supply jpeg's for any serious
inquiries.

thanks,
sleddog

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1979 Ford F-350 4x4 Pulling Truck

Can run Pa Street Legal, Pa and New York Super Stock, or could be altered
to run NTPA Modified 4x4. This truck was the Pa Street Legal 4x4 Big Block
points champion in 1994, 1995, and 1996 and was runner up in 1997. This is
a very smooth pulling truck and is set up for a big block Ford 460 type
engine.

NO ENGINE
> Rear axle: GM 14 bolt with 5:13 gears locked solid
Front axle: Dana 60 with 4.88 gears locked solid
Transmission: Ford C6 with SVO and TCI internals and CSI aluminum
guard
Torque Converter: Custom built 4000 stall truck pull converter
Trans cooler: Earls 42 row oil cooler with 10" fan
Transfer Case: NP 205
Tires: 31x15.5x15 GoodYear Terra Tires cut and DOT approved
Headers: Custom built 2.125" fender exit headers for Cobra Jet 429 ports
Many extra parts
>
This truck is built right and ready to pull. Add a good engine and start
winning!
All safety equipment is overkill and very well done. Drive shafts are less
than
a year old and all parts are in good condition. Weight box is square and
large
enough to get truck up to 7000 pounds if needed. Truck weighs approximately
4800 pounds with a 460 and no weights or driver.

Contact:
Barry Smith
kasmith epix.net

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Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 18:39:35 EDT
From: OldTrux
Subject: FTE 61-79 - AUCTION

Someone mentioned an auction site on the WWW where they were able to purchase
shop manuals, etc. Since my computer crashed 4/98 I have lost all my "Favorite
Places". Anyone know where I can find that site?
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Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 15:55:18 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - AUCTION

At 06:39 PM 5/5/98 EDT, you wrote:
>Someone mentioned an auction site on the WWW where they were able to purchase
>shop manuals, etc. Since my computer crashed 4/98 I have lost all my
"Favorite
>Places". Anyone know where I can find that site?


Try www.ebay.com

Later

Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
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Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 19:00:49 EDT
From: GMPACHECO
Subject: FTE 61-79 - toploader

I found a toploader, he'll pull it out of his 66 fairlane, just rebuilt 2700
miles ago? He wants $700.00. I want to put it in my 72 F-100 . Oh yeah he has
a 289 in the car, my question is will it bolt right up to my bell housing? ( I
have a 302) and will I need to shorten the driveshaft.. also is 700.00 too
much ?

Mike in Seattle...
gotta let him know on thursday, so I can pickup on Friday!

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Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 15:58:23 -0700
From: "Michael Connor"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rear Lockers

Jeff,

I have Dana/Spicer Power-Lok's in both axles of my
77 F250. I elected to go with them as a result of good experience
with them in my jeep. The Power Lok in the rear of the truck is a little
more forgiving on the street than a Detroit, and the truck is probably
an 80% street vehicle now. I have found the power lok to be more than
adequate on the trail. I do have a Detroit in my jeep now and it
is more inconvenient on the street (lock, unlock, clunking, tire
> chirp) but really shines in the dirt.The jeep gets about 70% trail usage.

Hope this helps,
Mike
Phoenix, AZ.

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Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 19:23:48 -0400
From: papacat webtv.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Weatherstripping

Ronald,
Do they have catalogs 61-64 trucks?
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Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 19:25:09 -0400
From: papacat webtv.net
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: gauges
>
ditto on that!
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Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 20:01:10 -0400
From: "J. Oxley"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Heavy Duty Hubs

Don Grossman wrote:
>
> Ok you all now you got me thinking,
>
> Is the HD hubs on the dana 44 really stronger than the regular hubs?

On 78-79, the actual locking mech and the chrome/red plastic thing is
exactly the same as 1/2 ton D44's. I was surprised by the size of the
earlier dana 44 HD's, as they are as big as D60 front hub stuff. Not
sure if the earlier one's are that big for a reason (ie; bigger
bearings, ect..) or just designed different (someone mentioned about
external hubs??????).

I think the outer bearing on 78-79 44 HD's is the same, but the inner
is definately bigger. I don't see a great advantage on 78-79 vintage
except that wheels will match (8 lug) and brakes are bigger. Axle
shafts, locking hubs, and one wheel bearing are exactly the same.

> Local junk yard wants $300 for a 77 3/4 ton HD Dana 44. I does have
> aftermarket locking hubs, not the Factoy ones.

I've seen 3 types of locking hubs on dana std 44 fronts. One set uses
alum, one set uses interconnecting "stars" and the best set, IMHO, uses
intermeshing dog teeth. I'm pretty sure 77 was the same as 78-79 for 44
HD, but if they are the huge one's with 6 mounting screws, I know
nothing about those.

>The brake calipers are the same

Same as what?? Should be twin piston on 44 HD, but single on 44. I have
heard only ford used twin piston calipers. Maybe it's not a ford axle.

> but the rotor looks like it has more of an offset but
> everything else looks the same.

It does, about .75 inches.

> They also want 3 bills for the rear end
> but I can do better than that at the U-Pull-It. What I am asking is
> Where's the Dana 44 beef?

I don't see it either. Main problem I had with D44 was axle shaft U's
and Spicer solids fixed that. 44's ("er's) are comin so I have to
upgrade.

> If I could only find a Dana 60 Front at that price :(

I picked up two (one partial) at a swap meet for 400$. One for parts
> and the other I sold for 350$. I can get one for 500$, but shipping
would be killer.

OX
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Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 19:21:17 -0500
From: "Michael R. Masse"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Heavy Duty Hubs

The main reason I did it is for the much better dual piston brakes, and
to match the 8 bolt lug pattern of the rear Dana 60.


Don Grossman wrote:
>
> Ok you all now you got me thinking,
>
> Is the HD hubs on the dana 44 really stronger than the regular hubs?
> Local junk yard wants $300 for a 77 3/4 ton HD Dana 44. I does have
> aftermarket locking hubs, not the Factoy ones. The brake calipers are
> the same but the rotor looks like it has more of an offset but
> everything else looks the same. They also want 3 bills for the rear end
> but I can do better than that at the U-Pull-It. What I am asking is
> Where's the Dana 44 beef?
>
> If I could only find a Dana 60 Front at that price :(
> --
> Don Grossman
> duckdon pacific.net
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacific.net/~duckdon
>
> 63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.
>
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